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<LionKon_IT> hi there Teddy, welcome!
<LionTeddy_IL> Hello Corrado, how are you
<LionTeddy_IL> How is Lucia and Alessandro?
<LionKon_IT> Fine, I had a little delay because Alessandro was crying :-)
<LionTeddy_IL> Well...that's normal
<LionKon_IT> i know... and to help her has obviously the precedence
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<LionTeddy_IL> Corrado, I will not be able to stay long because we are going to visit a Lion that had an operation
<LionKon_IT> ok
<LionTeddy_IL> Hi LionZip
<LionZip> Hello lions!
<LionZip> Lions!
<LionKon_IT> ciao Zio Zip, welcome here
<LionZip> ciao Corrado - Come è mio nipote, Alessandro, oggi? 
<LionKon_IT> really summer here in europe! All are on the beach!
<LionKon_IT> as I said, i had a little delay here because he was crying
<LionTeddy_IL> Eventhough I do not understand well the difference between the Webmaster and the New proposed Internet Officer i give my vote to it.
<LionKon_IT> Teddy, the webmaster could be an Internet Officer or not
<LionZip> tell allesandro to cry no longer - Tio Zip is here now!
<LionKon_IT> your italian is great Zip!
<LionTeddy_IL> That is what I was trying to say the last week. IMO there is a coincidence in both functions.
<LionZip> my translation program is great
<LionTeddy_IL> And tio Teddy seconds the motion
<LionZip> Bravo Teddy!
<LionKon_IT> well, should be better if the Internet Officer will be the webmaster too, but this figure is mostly important for the club that doesn't have a web site yet
<LionZip> i don't think many clubs will add that officer if they are not on line
<LionTeddy_IL> So if the Club dosn't have a website what will the Internet Officer do?
<LionZip> If they do not have a web site - or at least an email account - they will not realize the importance of that job
<LionKon_IT> the IO should be the contact with the Internet world, he has to maintain the e-mails contacts with the District and the lionistic world in Internet.... Then probably the club will have a web site too
<LionTeddy_IL> Example, in my Club I am the president and the Webmaster and no one neither is interested nor is capable to deal with the WebSite of the Club nor the Internet communications. So what to be done?
<LionTeddy_IL> In my District we have problems with the Districts WebSite, too, even if we have an Internet Chairman.
<LionKon_IT> the IO will have to works: 1) to promote the Internet activities in the Club (showing the recieved mail messages and what happens using Internet); 2) to be the responsible officer that will maintain contacts with his district and other clubs
<LionTeddy_IL> And you, Corrado hace expeienced this with our Agora Site, remember?
<LionTeddy_IL> I hope that every Club will find such a volounteer.
<LionKon_IT> yes, Teddy, I have experiences as Internet Chairman, Internet Club Officer, Secretary of the Internet MD Committee and Member of the Internet Forum Staff.... The work is difficult i know.... but it's the matter because I'm trying to involve more and interested people
<LionTeddy_IL> That is the reason that I agrre with my vote but, am very doubtful of the practibility of the resolution.
<LionKon_IT> however, as i wrote in the last report, i'm interested to know what other countries are doing to promote the use of internet
<LionZip> Question: I see that every Saturday, it is Corrado, Teddy and Zip in this chat - - would conversation in a European language get more Lions to join?
<LionKon_IT> i wish to collect all the ideas and try to write a report for the website and maybe for our district newspaper
<LionTeddy_IL> OK. friends, as I mentioned in the begining, today I have to leave early. Corrado, if you will be entering the CIRCLE chat after ours, please, excuse me there.
<LionTeddy_IL> Bye, bye, friends.
<LionZip> bye Teddy
<LionKon_IT> ok Teddy, have a good day
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<LionKon_IT> Well, Zip, as I said I think that the low frequentation is only a temporary problem, due to the summer period here
<LionKon_IT> lot of us are in vacation now
<LionZip> Corrado - the Lions who provide the IRC chat room for LOL have created a network which they have named Lions on Line Network
<LionKon_IT> Teddy is easily here because in Israel Saturday is a vacation day
<LionZip> They hope to have world-wide Lion participation
<LionKon_IT> i hope too, tell me more, please
<LionZip> but Corrado - if it is Sabbath, he shouild not be typing 
<LionZip> I am also jewish - but not Orthodox
<LionKon_IT> probably to type isn't a work for him :-)
<LionZip> he should not even turn on or off a light
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<LionKon_IT> however, let me speak about the first idea for the EILC chat before...
<LionZip> okay
<LionZip> Hello moon
<LionKon_IT> About the language: I decided that the common language should be english
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<LionZip> English makes it good for me - that is why I do not go to CIRCLE
<LionKon_IT> because, differently from the LOL chat, there isn't a common language for europe
<LionKon_IT> most of you are english speaking
<LionZip> I would think that many speak Spanish or German
<LionKon_IT> then, when we will be more, we could arrange other chat times for each country
<LionKon_IT> where each one will speak his language
<LionZip> that would be good
<LionKon_IT> but with one interpreter for the visitors of other countries
<LionZip> that would result in many e-clubs under your EILC umbrella
<LionKon_IT> that was the idea :-)
<LionKon_IT> clearly still a lot of work to do. First of all EILC should work as well!
<LionZip> I agree
<LionZip> do you get many non-Lions coning into the room to see what it is?
<LionKon_IT> if you have still time I'm trying to invite a Jordan fellow here :-)
<LionZip> okay
<LionKon_IT> just one or 2 each saturday. This server is almost private
<LionKon_IT> i had a curious experience 2 days ago, speaking with this fellow about his relations with the Lions in Israel
<LionZip> that is what I like about LOL - ONLY LIONS!
<LionZip> a Lion from Israel?
<LionKon_IT> well, maybe in the next month we will add a password again, to enter the chat
<LionZip> Passwords make it difficult and even impossible for new members to get in
<LionKon_IT> well, surely you know the political situation about Jordan and Israel.... the 2 countries have Lions but how are their relations?
<LionZip> it is a shame for such things to happen
<LionKon_IT> about the password I think that when EILC will work well, there will not be problems for the new members
<LionKon_IT> because there will be always someone ready to help them entering the chat
<LionKon_IT> CIRCLE uses a password for his chat room and they don't have any problem
<LionKon_IT> but they are more than 400 members!
<LionZip> Passwords will be used at LOL to enter a new page now being created for member information - like addresses and telephone numbers - 
<LionKon_IT> yes, I'm thinking to do the same for the members area in the EILC web site
<LionZip> it is important for privacy of the personal information
<LionZip> that is why LOL uses only screen names (nicks) in the chat reports
<LionKon_IT> yes, it's easy to do, just a little java script in the page and only one password for all
<LionKon_IT> I'm teaching to our Jordan fellow how to enter the chat
<LionKon_IT> ...using the web chat. He doesn't use mirc
<LionZip> now?
<LionKon_IT> yes, he's online in ICQ, do you want his number?
<LionZip> no thanks - I have more now than I need
<LionKon_IT> k :-)
<LionZip> perhaps if I get to know him, I can add him laater
<LionKon_IT> I've more than 250 Lions number in my list!!!
<LionZip> I don't know many of the people oin my ICQ list - and I am too busy most of the time to start a conversation with new Lions
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<LionZip> Sael Maggi
<LionKon_IT> hi there Maggi, welcome in the EILC chat!
<Maggi> Hello 
<LionKon_IT> Maggi should have probably to do a work for the Europa Forum :-)
<LionKon_IT> If he'll ready to be a volunteer :-)
<LionKon_IT> Maggi, did i speak you about the "Virtual Agorà" in the Europa Forum website?
<LionZip> Maggi - your icelandic guard (soldier?) standing watch over me and my computer says hello to you, also
<Maggi> I am working on that hope to be abel to send it to you soon
<LionKon_IT> great! Did you contact your Forum Delegation?
<LionKon_IT> Zip, you should help us to organize a great EILC party in Florence :-)
<LionZip> I wish I could be there
<LionKon_IT> why not :-)
<Maggi> I was supposed to be a wiking with a spear
<LionZip> I cannot swim that far
<LionKon_IT> you have a great advantage with the $ now
<LionZip> Maggi - I will put on my glasses so I can tell who he is....lol
<Maggi> Corrado I will To day contact our yed chairman
<LionZip> how did the Vikings carry such long spears in this little ships???
<LionKon_IT> ok, Maggi, thanks.... did you already visit the Icelandic Agorà pages?
<LionZip> Maggi - my Viking has a green robe and a shield made in 1963 - do you know if he has a name?
<LionKon_IT> however, Zip, we could try to arrange an audio/video connection from the EILC party :-)
<Maggi> most likly tied to the mast Zip
<Maggi> Yes and download it to
<LionKon_IT> perfect, Maggi, you are great!
<LionZip> Corrado - it would depend upon the hour - but I can announce the schedule for all LOL members who can find it
<LionKon_IT> probably we will use that time... is good enough to the other side of the ocean
<LionZip> that time??
<LionKon_IT> the party will probably start at 13.00
<LionKon_IT> or from 13.30 to 16.30
<LionZip> on which day of the week?
<LionKon_IT> maybe thue or fry, the Forum will start on OCtober 25
<Maggi> Zip no name These spears were boot spears and some kind axes 
<LionZip> Question: Is EILC a sister club or a brother club for LOL?
<LionZip> My Viking has an axe
<LionKon_IT> sister as Europe :-)
<LionZip> opk
<LionZip> keep me up to date & I will try to get others to join
<LionKon_IT> yes...
<LionZip> what is a boot spear?
<LionKon_IT> I hope that Maggi will be with us too, or phisically or using Internet
<Maggi> How come the forum is so late ? usually in sept.
<LionKon_IT> I don't know Maggi... the date was decided 2 yrs ago! during the last Europa Forum
<LionZip> Corrado - do you keep a log running here?
<LionKon_IT> always Zip
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<LionKon_IT> Welcome in the EILC chatroom Walid
<LionKon_IT> well fellows, here at least our friend Lions Walid from Jordan
<Maggi> I was at the forum in Zurich Must be one of many thing passing me
<LionZip> I will give you the address for Lane & Mimi Opkins - who provide the Lions On Line Network so you can see how they hope to have European Lions join the network
<LionZip> BRB
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<LionKon_IT> do you think you will be in Florence too, Maggi?
<LionKon_IT> thanks Zip
<Maggi> Would like to But most likly not
<LionZip> mimi@rightlane.com
<LionKon_IT> what i should do, Zip?
<LionZip> or lane@rightlane.com
<LionZip> I will send you a copy of the note they sent me so you have an idea of what they hope to accomplish
<LionKon_IT> Maggi, i hope that you could publish the EILC party with someone of your Delegation
<LionKon_IT> I hope to enlarge the EILC group with more of each country
<LionZip> will the EILC meeting be in the forum program for all to find?
<Maggi> I will keep them informed
<LionKon_IT> i don't know if the party will be in the official program
<LionKon_IT> because the Forum has a full program for the 3 days. But we could use a free lunch time to meet us
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<LionKon_IT> i hope that you could invite some othere from Iceland to join the chats sometime, Maggi.
<LionKon_IT> Here again Walid, welcome!
<LionZip> I thought the Forum was sponsoring EILC. Have you asked for a meeting room and/or a time to be announced?
<LionZip> Hello from california, Walid
<LionKon_IT> I'm asking, but we have already spoken about this problem Zip.... If they want to sponsor us without restrictions all is good, differently we will be there as EILC
<LionKon_IT> And we will work for the next Forum sponsorship
<LionZip> maybe you need to have your annual meeting during the International convention as LOL does
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<LionZip> LCI has always given us a meeting room and an announcement in the Official Convention Program
<LionKon_IT> because EILC is european, the Forum should be our annual home. But we could have a LOL/EILC meeting during the INTCONV too
<LionZip> EILC is always welcome to share with us
<LionKon_IT> i know, and thanks :-)
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<Walid> Hello Lion Konrad
<LionKon_IT> ok, I was duplicated to help Walid :-)
<Walid> Have  you recieved it Lion Konrad
<LionKon_IT> Walid, may I prsent you the famous LionZip, chatmaster of the Lions on Line Lions Club
<LionZip> Walid - I welcome you all the way from California, USA
<Walid> It is great pleasure, I'm sure I'm the 1st one in Jordan who has this opportunity
<LionKon_IT> probably you are right Walid!
<LionKon_IT> may you tell us something about you, Walid?
<LionZip> and we hope you will bring many more with yoiu the next time you are here
<Walid> Do LionZip knows me
<LionZip> I am meeting you here for the first time
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<LionKon_IT> (just to present you to Lion Zip, Walid)
<Walid> Ok, My name is Walid Sboul, I'm presidant of "Amman Wadi Rum Lions Club" we are in Jordan area 351
<Walid> Thanks for Lion Konrad
<LionKon_IT> next time I'll teach you how to use the mirc program, walid, and how to enter the other Lions chat rooms all over the world!
<Walid> You are most welcome and thank you very much. I noticed that mIRC is a membership prograp , is it free of charge or I have to pay for it?
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<LionKon_IT> no cost, if I help you walid :-)
<LOL-Hele> good morning all
<LionZip> Hi Helen
<LionKon_IT> ciao Helen!
<LionZip> yeah - ciao helen!
<LionKon_IT> How are? Welcome in the EILC chat room!
<LOL-Hele> am great thank you 
<LionZip> Helen joins us from Canada
<LionKon_IT> we are welcoming Walid from Jordan, Helen
<Walid> Three continents are on the link at the same time
<LOL-Hele> hi 
<Walid> hi Helen
<LionKon_IT> (i see that you are using the web chat helen, there is a little bug, only 8 letters for the nick)
<LOL-Hele> just saw that now  
<LOL-Hele> will change next time
<LionKon_IT> we was speaking about the EILC party in Florence during the Europa Forum in Florence
<Walid> Helen, May I ask where are you in Canada?
<LionKon_IT> maybe the LOL could help us with his experience :-)
<LOL-Hele> ontario near Niagara Falls
<LionKon_IT> yes, today 3 continents here Walid :-)
<Walid> Did any body where in Jordan before?
<LOL-Hele> your the first lion from Jordan that i can recall ever talking to :-)
<LionKon_IT> unfortunately not, Walid, but i hope to visit your country one time, it's wonderful!
<LionZip> 3 continents and 4 countries
<Walid> Why we do not think of managing a Lions trip to Jordan?
<Walid> Every body on the world knows Petra and Jerash and Wadi Rum
<LOL-Hele> kon did you not just have a son
<LionKon_IT> thanks for the file zip
<LionZip> welcome
<LionKon_IT> Yes Helen :-)
<LOL-Hele> hows things going 
<LionKon_IT> The little Alessandro was born on july 26th
<LionZip> careful helen - that's MY nephew you are talking about!
<LOL-Hele> yes and my nephew also 
<LionZip> July 26th was my father's birthday
<LionKon_IT> why not Walid, it could be a great trip!
<LOL-Hele> am auntie here too
<LionKon_IT> wowwwwww! Zio Zip!
<LionZip> it is a good sign!
<LionKon_IT> he's a Lion :-)
<LionZip> does he have a membership card?
<LOL-Hele> great set of lungs them he roarrrrrrsssss
<Walid> Whom do you think is in charge to help on this idea?
<LionKon_IT> I don't know, walid... but you could arrange a project and we could publish it
<LionZip> Bene, il mio amico…. it is time for me to go to work
<LOL-Hele> have a great day zip catch up to you later
<LionZip> Ciao everybodyglad you were here
<LionKon_IT> almost for me too Zip, the time always fligh here!
<LionKon_IT> Ciao Zio Zip :-)
<LionZip> Have a GREAT LIONS DAY!
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<LionKon_IT> Helen, do you want the picture of the little Lion?
<LOL-Hele> will let you all go to work  i have to go , give  Allessandro a hug for me  
<LOL-Hele> yes send picture would love to see mt nephew
<LionKon_IT> do you have ICQ opened, Helen?
<LOL-Hele> send to hoskin@inter-pc.com
<LOL-Hele> can you send to my email Kon
<LionKon_IT> ok, I'll do Helen.
<LOL-Hele> thanks  
<LOL-Hele> Penny would love to see also i will forward to her also 
<LionKon_IT> Time to go now.... Walid, the chat session is going to finish, we are 30 minutes over our standard time :-)
<Walid> It seems that all of you knows each other in family basis
<LionKon_IT> we usually meet us each weeks walid :-)
<LOL-Hele> we chat a lot walid and get to know each other and get to be friends  good news and some bad news can be passed we care about each other
<LionKon_IT> thanks for your presence here, Helen! I hope to see you the next saturdays too
<LOL-Hele> you will take care Kon 
<LOL-Hele> thanks 
<LOL-Hele> next sat i will be away riding roller caosters for the day :-)
<LionKon_IT> ehehe :-)
<LOL-Hele> family day will catch up to you the one after 
<LOL-Hele> take care all nice meeting you walid  hope to see more of you 
<LOL-Hele> bye all
<LionKon_IT> fellows, the work is calling me now.... I've to close. Walid, we could continue using ICQ
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<LionKon_IT> Ciao Helen, See you tomorrow :-)
<LionKon_IT> i still have 10 minutes to explain you more about the Lions chats all over the world
<Walid> ok by every body
<LionKon_IT> see you in ICQ
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