Session Start: Sat Dec 02 15:57:10 2000
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<LionKon_IT> ciao a tutti!
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<LionZip> maybe try another?
<fem-tr> ciao
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<fem-tr> ı try
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<LionTedd> Ciao Corrado, how are you?
<LionKon_IT> woow, always late!!!!!!!!! 3 fellow here before me!
<LionZip> Corrado needs a night nanny so he can sleep all night, I think
<fem-tr> :)
<LionZip> that is okay - you are the op anyway
<LionKon_IT> Ciao Lion Tedd, welcome here!
<LionKon_IT> my clock say 15.59 now!
<LionTedd> Thank but I will say soon good bue I have to go to a meetting
<LionZip> my clock says 7:02 am
<LionKon_IT> just one minute before we start our :-)
<fem-tr> mine 16:59
<LionZip> Corrado - I have a clock program that keeps my clock adjusted from one of the atomic clocks in the world
<LionKon_IT> May you tell us something about you Tedd? Just for the chat log, thanks!
<LionZip> maybe you should have it
<LionKon_IT> oh, not Zip, it will discocer all my delays! :-)
<LionKon_IT> ...discover
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<LionKon_IT> Hello Latife, welcome to the EILC chat room
<lnlatitr> hi everybody ciaoo atutti
<LionZip> Hi Latiffe
<LionKon_IT> at least you are with us again!
<lnlatitr> hello Corrado this is our time to eat
<lnlatitr> we are ın Ramadan
<LionKon_IT> now? at 5?
<LionZip> will you be changing the meeting time?
<LionKon_IT> yes Zip. I wish to start one hour before, if all agree it
<LionZip> that will be 0600 for me
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<LionTedd> What do you want me to tell you Corrado? I am trying to be in both chats CIRCLE and here, it's difficult
<lnlatitr> yes becouse the mounth ıs sacre and we are ın Ramadan and from 0430 of the mornıng we  can eat or drıng only at 1643
<LionZip> Teddy - he does not know the nick
<LionKon_IT> the basic information about you Tedd, I think that is the first time that you are in the EILC chat
<LionKon_IT> oh! Well, Latife, you have to invite us to your lunch now! We will toast you!
<lnlatitr> yes of course ıt will great well come
<LionZip> I do not have enough bus fare, Latiffe
<LionZip> but thank you
<LionKon_IT> Zip, may you agree with the new scheduled time? we could use it in winter and the actual time in summer. In this way we will be always on hour before the CIRCLE chat
<LionTedd> I see, this is LionTeddyIL=Touvia=Tedd I do not know why it appeared Tedd only
<lnlatitr> I want to ask everyone do you want to go to Lisbon? per pre forum?
<LionZip> I am usually awake - but you should do what is best for EILC
<LionKon_IT> ohhhhhhhh Teddy! I though that you are another!!!!! :-)
<LionKon_IT> you have another nick because you are using the webchat :-)
<lnlatitr> ?????????
<LionTedd> Corrado, may I suggest again to change the hour of the chat one hour before or one hour later. I understood that we'll have it one hour earlier.
<LionTedd> Yes I am using the WebChat
<lnlatitr> Corrado do you see I am not alone thet askıng the chang time
<LionTedd> Friends, I am sorry, I have to leave you for a meetting. Keep well all of you.
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<LionKon_IT> lat me explain to latife: Latife, because in winter our scheduled time is the same as the CIRCLE chat we was thinking to change the time, or the date and time
<LionKon_IT> we need suggestions
<lnlatitr> as you want Corrado I want to change becouse I want to be wıth you
<LionKon_IT> Zio Zip, I've a great new for all. The next week, during our District Convention, I've presented a new article for the District Consitution and By Law about the use of Internet and the Informatic resources
<LionZip> what will it say?
<LionKon_IT> Latife: the idea is to change the time but not the date. We could start the chat one hour before now. But we could change the date too... 
<lnlatitr> Corrado   to Whom? to the Italıan lions ? and???????
<lnlatitr> for me it is ok if you can change to Sunday will be great
<LionZip> Sunday would be a problem for me
<LionKon_IT> well, I could send you the article that accept all the news from LCI about Internet and the Informatic Resources. The article was voted from over 240 Tuscan Lions
<lnlatitr> I see Zip but I don't know may be later
<LionKon_IT> no one red vote!
<lnlatitr> Corrado You are teling that artıcle that you sent me or another thing
<LionKon_IT> Now we want to present the article to the Governor Council asking that all the italian District could accept it in their Constitution and Bylaws
<LionZip> I offered to be my MD IT Officer and it was refused - they will not do anything until next year
<LionKon_IT> Latife, it was the article that I sent you, with some differences. We divided the article in a Constitution section and a Bylaw Section
<LionKon_IT> Zip, in our MD, we have an Internet Committee with 8 Members
<lnlatitr> Zip I want to know what are you usıng ın CIRCLE
<LionZip> my MD said it was too late this year to adopt the new IT Officer approved by LCI - it is a common story - too little too late
<LionZip> Latife - I am not in CIRCLE - I speak no Spanish
<LionKon_IT> :-) the MD Internet Committee, where I'm the Secretary, exist from 3 yrs here
<LionKon_IT> Latife, Zip is from LOL
<LionZip> that is very good
<LionZip> here in the US where the Internet started - we will be the last to catch up - - hehehe
<lnlatitr> Ok Zıp what are you usıng ın LOL
<LionKon_IT> but this year we are changing it in the "Information technology Committee" as the LCI approved. And we are asking to the Club and Districts to organize the same Committees
<LionZip> we use IRC and a java program - do you want the URL?
<LionKon_IT> In USA you are interested more in the actions than in the rules or Committees Names :-)
<LionZip> Corrado - if you have that in English. I might submit it to our council
<lnlatitr> Zip I am askıng how you began to the LOL clubs ? What you dıd uffıcıally
<LionKon_IT> what do you want exactly to know Latife? How the LOL started?
<LionZip> I started LOL as an activity of a chartered club - now we have 70 members
<LionKon_IT> which rules they follow?
<lnlatitr> yes Zıp but ezatly I want to know  uffıcıaly(means as charter) dıd you do some thing ıf you don't understand my ınglısh tell me becouse my ınglısh ıs bed
<LionZip> we are still part of a chartered club - Victorville LC of District 4-L5
<LionKon_IT> Zip, I can translate the new article for you, and send.... but about the International Board decisions for the "Information Technology Committees" you have only to ask to your Governor. He should have the Board's resumes
<LionZip> my governor is lucky to have the right time!
<LionZip> Latife - I understand
<LionKon_IT> LCI asked to create these Committees from the MD to the Club level
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<LionKon_IT> The International Board speaks exactly about a ITC Chairman that should be elected from the MD to the Club levels
<fem-tr> hi again
<LionZip> I asked the MD to appoint me and the Council Chair said the information came too late for them this year - maybe they were all at siesta!
<fem-tr> sorry
<LionKon_IT> Hello Semra, Welcome to the EILC chat
<lnlatitr> Dear Zip You say me that your LOL ıs as a program of your club ?
<lnlatitr> hello semra
<fem-tr> hi lati  lati ı send u mail  did u see?
<lnlatitr> Yes Semra I receıved thank you
<LionKon_IT> exactly, Latife, LOL is an activity of the Zip Club
<LionZip> yes, Latife - the Internet clubs do not yet qualify to be chartered
<LionZip> but LCI does recognize us
<fem-tr> if its not ok ı  take u another number
<LionKon_IT> (Zip, the Board decision was sent in september here!)
<LionZip> they give us a meeting room at the International Convention and a listing in the official program
<LionZip> but no charter
<LionKon_IT> Latife, it's an old story. LCI knows as well the Internet Clubs, but recognize them only as Lionistic Activities
<lnlatitr> Zıp It was the thıng that I want to hear and dıscuss another tıme wıth Corrado Thank you for your ınformatıon now What we will do to hgether for receıvıng uffıcıally the name of club? we must sdıscuss this
<lnlatitr> I want your reply Zıp becouse I am sure taht ıt wıll be but ı don't know how
<LionKon_IT> Latife, Zip has already informed LCI with a strong message to the International President.... EILC, as you know, has worked to discuss it with our European IDs during the Europa Forum
<LionKon_IT> now we have only to wait that they understand as well how a Lions Internet Club is important for the Association
<LionZip> It is just a matter of time
<LionZip> Next Sunday (10Dec) we (LOL) will induct a new Lion during our morning meeting
<LionZip> OnLine
<LionKon_IT> the ID Jon Bjarni and Massimo fabio are working for us. And Jon Bjarni is really interested to solve this problem
<LionZip> She will be our 2nd Lion joining because of the Internet
<lnlatitr> Ok thank you Zip we must make know to them ın every occasıon how ımportant we are but not only sayıng or not only makıng know our distrıcts we must uffıcıally make know to the WRITE
<LionZip> I sent an invitation to VP Fukushima - it would be good if he joins us for the ceremony
<LionKon_IT> However, LOL, as you can see, has found the right way to work as a standard Club even when they decide to induct new Members from Internet!
<LionZip> we MUST keep within the LCI rules
<LionZip> but we can do that in our own ways
<LionKon_IT> we already follow the LCI rules, because our Constituions are builted on the Standard Club Constitution
<lnlatitr> It was wonderfull to wrıte to you thanks to Corrado  eto Zıp I am goıng to eat somethıng ıf you will here I came back bye for now
<LionZip> It is time for me to get ready for work - I wish you all a very happy and successful week
<LionKon_IT> ok latife. Please, while you are eating your Ramadan lunch, think about a new scheduled time and date for the EILC chat :-)
<LionZip> Ciao
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<LionKon_IT> always thanks for your presence Zip. I'll send you all the details about the New Internet/Informatic rules for my DIstrict
<fem-tr> lati  ı call u later
<LionKon_IT> Semra, do you think we should change the chat date?
<fem-tr>  ı didnt  read all of it
<LionKon_IT> as you know in winter we use the same time and date of CIRCLE and it isn't good
<fem-tr> if u want its ok
<fem-tr>  not peoblem for me
<LionKon_IT> I'm trying to think about a good date and time for all
<fem-tr>  already now ım in office  and  not yet eat
<fem-tr> what do u they th,ink ?
<LionKon_IT> but we have to think that on saturday there is the CIRCLE chat (from 16.00 to 17.00, in winter and from 17.00 to 18.00 in summer)
<fem-tr> this time its ok for me
<LionKon_IT> and on sunday from 15.30 to 16.30 there is the LOL chat
<fem-tr> lati said me before monday morning better
<fem-tr> morning?
<fem-tr> ı think morning better
<LionKon_IT> morning it's a wrong time for USA
<LionKon_IT> because they are about 6/7 hours behind us
<fem-tr> on sunday  after  the 16.30  usualy people goes out
<fem-tr> ıknown
<LionKon_IT> Monday afternoon could be perfect for me, I'm in vacation :-)
<LionKon_IT> but it's a working time for most of the people!
<fem-tr> ıf all thinks ok ı say ok
<fem-tr> ı known
<LionKon_IT> I'm just thinking to find a solution
<fem-tr> friday  evening
<LionKon_IT> saturday from 15.00 to 16.00? (that is your 16.00 to 17.00)
<fem-tr> suitable  for me
<LionKon_IT> friday evening could be a good time too for me
<fem-tr> same me
<LionKon_IT> from wich time?
<LionKon_IT> 18.00 to 19.00?
<fem-tr> better 
<fem-tr> because at 20.00  dance time for me
<LionKon_IT> Zip is 9 hour before us!
<fem-tr> yes :)
<LionKon_IT> California is far in the West!
<fem-tr> lunch time for him
<LionKon_IT> however, we could start using the 2 times and opening 2 chats with the same argument. What do you think?
<LionKon_IT> then we will see how is the presence
<fem-tr> firstly  try and then decide
<LionKon_IT> 1 chat on friday from 18.00 to 19.00 and one chat on saturday from 15.00 to 16.00
<LionKon_IT> there will be more work to do, but we will have time to decide the right time for us
<fem-tr> could be lati and me choise  friday time
<LionKon_IT> there will not be any problem
<fem-tr> already have got a time
<fem-tr>  only member want to be there
<LionKon_IT> yes, but some members are CIRLCE members too, and now they have problems because we have the EILC and CIRCLE chat in the same time
<fem-tr> so we have to choise true time for us
<LionKon_IT> then you have to think that we always hope in new Members and chat participants, and the chat time is very important for the presence
<fem-tr> it seems  friday evening better
<fem-tr> because saturday  is holiday
<LionKon_IT> ok. So I'll send a mailing list message with the new scheduled times and dates and I'll ask for a decision
<fem-tr> good
<LionKon_IT> In any case we could choose the discussed times: friday from 18.00 to 19.00, saturday from 15.00 to 16.00
<fem-tr> yes saturday time  better then now
<fem-tr> but too democratic system :))
<LionKon_IT> well, LOL has 2 chats every week exactly for these problems
<LionKon_IT> and the chats have the same topic
<fem-tr> its seems problem
<LionKon_IT> so at the end of every week there is a report that sum the 2 chats discussions
<LionKon_IT> about the same argument
<LionKon_IT> so we could do the same
<fem-tr>  yes 
<fem-tr> its sound not good
<LionKon_IT> if someone is unable to participate in the friday chat, he/she could participate in the Saturday chat with the same argument
<fem-tr> so second time not good idea
<LionKon_IT> what do you want to say?
<LionKon_IT> do you think we should have only one scheduled time?
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<fem-tr> we have to decide abouh result
<fem-tr>  have to one time
<fem-tr> already  we   try to find what will ı do
<fem-tr> so  one scheduled time better
<LionKon_IT> ok.... but do you think that we could use 2 time whil we decide?
<fem-tr> now yes
<LionKon_IT> ok, we will do it :-)
<fem-tr> firstly we try  and then decide
<fem-tr> so we see easily which one  better for us
<LionKon_IT> then I need some help... maybe another chatmaster to follow all the chats :-)
<fem-tr> so ı have to help u
<LionKon_IT> if you want :-)
<fem-tr> wowoww
<fem-tr> when people said some decision  then have to do it
<fem-tr> its tooo old  way abouth the story :))
<LionKon_IT> Because you already know Mirc and surely you know how to save the chat logs. Then you have to improve your english and take the control of the chat discussions :-)
<fem-tr> yes ıknown use to mirch
<fem-tr> and save
<LionKon_IT> every week I save the chat log and then I publish it in the wb site
<fem-tr> yes ı have to improve
<LionKon_IT> ok, maybe a new officer for the Club!
<fem-tr> may be other  decide have to improve  turkish
<LionKon_IT> ehehehe, remember that english is the common language here
<fem-tr> :)
<fem-tr> if ım control   it
<LionKon_IT> in these weeks we have to think about a Christmas EILC chat :-)
<fem-tr> have to
<LionKon_IT> then the next chat we have to speak about the "Touch Me" Project and what's happened
<LionKon_IT> in the next week I'll send you my gifts :-)
<fem-tr> time is coming
<fem-tr> wow grat :))
<LionKon_IT> a pleasure, may you suggest anything?
<fem-tr> before ı said more
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<LionKon_IT> Hello Umberto, welcome to the EILC chat!
<fem-tr>  ciao umbrto
<LionKon_IT> just in time!!!
<fem-tr> :)
<LionUmb_IT> salve
<LionKon_IT> is the CIRCLE chat finished?
<fem-tr> how are u ?
<LionKon_IT> was you there?
<fem-tr> wow alots of question
<LionUmb_IT> I am here, but I was in a private chat with a friend that was surgered 
<LionKon_IT> ohhhhhhhhh!
<LionKon_IT> a virtual consultation?
<LionUmb_IT> for a cancer
<fem-tr> what what???
<LionUmb_IT> I was in a medical consultation
<fem-tr> not good subject
<lnlatitr> here I am agaın
<LionKon_IT> you use the Internet Resources as well Umberto!
<LionKon_IT> I hope that all will be good at least!
<LionUmb_IT> by a chat it is possible to have news and to suggest something, obviuosly
<fem-tr> wb lati
<LionKon_IT> ciao latife, we toasted you during your Ramadan lunch!
<LionUmb_IT> Hi lati
<lnlatitr> hi every body ıs was good Corrado Umberto how nıce to reed you
<LionKon_IT> may I resume you the decisions about the new chat scheduled time and dates?
<lnlatitr> thank you Corrado I am curıouse
<LionKon_IT> 1) because in winter the CIRCLE and EILC chat have the same scheduled time on saturday, we decided to change our time
<LionKon_IT> 2) we discussed about several times and dates, considering the USA time zones too
<lnlatitr> ok great
<lnlatitr> and ???
<LionKon_IT> 3) we though to leave a saturday chat from 15.00 to 16.00 that is one hour before now and before the CIRCLE chat
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<LionKon_IT> 4) we dcided also to open a new scheduled chat time and date on friday from 18.00 to 19.00
<lnlatitr> ok  after the CIRCLE's chat?
<LionKon_IT> 5) That will be for a certain period, while we decide wich time is better for us. I'll send a mailing list message with the new times and dates asking all to send their suggestions
<LionKon_IT> at the end we will choose the right time, or friday or saturday
<LionKon_IT> what do you think Latife?
<lnlatitr> ok ıt ıs a good ıdea
<LionKon_IT> maybe you'll prefer friday than saturday?
<lnlatitr> durıng the askıng to all of oru member you must ask also theşr opınıon on the friday andsaturday and we wait and see
<lnlatitr> Corrado fridewy ın that our I am ın the street for comıng  home 
<LionKon_IT> for sure latife. Now we will give the new 2 times. But we could choose following the ideas of all
<lnlatitr> okey....
<LionKon_IT> from your 19.00 to 20.00?
<lnlatitr> yes Corrado I leave my work ın the 1900 and I need one or more hours for arrıvıng at home for the traffıcs
<LionKon_IT> ok, I'll try to delay from 18.30 to 19.30 :-) so you could participate in the chat!
<lnlatitr> yes thank you I wıll do  my best for partecıpate to our meeting
<LionKon_IT> ok, now I've to go.... Lucia is come back home with the little Alssandro, and I have to do my dad's work!
<lnlatitr> ok my loves to them bye 
<LionKon_IT> Zia Latife, ti mando la nuova foto del signorino?
<lnlatitr> thank you
<lnlatitr> semra ıyı aksamlar ben hattayım ama bu odadan cıkıyorum
<LionKon_IT> ok, la mando subito via ICQ
<LionKon_IT> ora chiudo la chat.... grazie per la partcipazione a tutti!
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