Session Start: Sat Aug 19 16:03:47 2000
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*** LionKon_IT changes topic to 'How can we encourage more Lions to join EILC and the Chat sessions?'
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<LionKon_IT> hi Zip, Welcome in the EIlc chatroom
<LionZip> kewl!
<LionKon_IT> ok, I've learned how to change the topic.... but your last lesson didn't work :-)
<LionZip> you should change the word "in" ====> 'to"
<LionKon_IT> where?
<LionZip> we can try again
<LionKon_IT> if you want... :-)
<LionZip> hi Zip, Welcome in the EIlc chatroom = hi Zip, Welcome to the EIlc chatroom
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<LionTeddy_IL> Hello my friends, how are you?
<LionZip> hi LionTeddy_IL, Welcome to the EIlc chatroom
<LionKon_IT> ciao Teddy, welcome to the Eilc chat room :-)
<LionTeddy_IL> thank you, happy to be here.
<LionKon_IT> Zip was teaching me how to create an automatic message to introduce the participants
<LionZip> there are days, teddy, when I am glad to be ANYWHERE!
<LionTeddy_IL> That is true Zip
<LionKon_IT> today about 35° here, really hot. I wish to be in Island with our friend maggi today :-)
<LionZip> Corrad - what happened when you tried the instruction I sent?
<LionTeddy_IL> Me too, it's over 38 here and veryhumid.
<LionKon_IT> nothing happened :-(
<LionZip> it has been 100 every day here
<LionTeddy_IL> Don, what is the issue of the entering message?
<LionZip> just an automatic greeting so one might not feel ignored as they enter
<LionTeddy_IL> that will be nice
<LionZip> corrado - another thought about your mail list....
<LionKon_IT> tell me Zip
<LionZip> if you have set the mail list so every response goes out to all on the mail list - it will NOT be good
<LionKon_IT> now you can look at the EILC/egroup page too http://www.egroups.com/group/lionseuropa
<LionZip> we did that at LOL and we lost many many members at the beginning
<LionKon_IT> Do you think I should moderate the list?
<LionZip> when I sent a report, any response went out to everyone - not just to me - and mailboxes were overfilled and Lions were very angry with all the traffic
<LionTeddy_IL> A question of issue, what does a little house mean next to KonRad in the ICQ List chart?
<LionKon_IT> It says that I've an ICQ personal page
<LionZip> many times, a response is just an answer to a point made - and you, as moderator, can decide to forward it or just make a note
<LionZip> but not all members want to hear about it
<LionKon_IT> I think that this list could be moderate. There is only to setup the egroup feture
<LionTeddy_IL> What is an ICQ personal page?
<LionKon_IT> However, for the first time I think to leave it open, so the members can try the new service. Lot of members aren't so expert using Internet
<LionZip> think about it - we had a terrible time at first - and the Australia chat on e-group is the same way and has also lost members - including me
<LionKon_IT> I'm in the Australia egroup too :-)
<LionZip> how many on the mail list now?
<LionKon_IT> and in the CIRCLE list that is completely opened with more than 400 members!
<LionKon_IT> 16 in the EILC/egroup list
<LionTeddy_IL> Corrado, Don is right. I am in 7 Lists and this is a terrible problem to receive unwanted mail and more, not sudeful mail
<LionZip> eseful?
<LionZip> useful
<LionZip> ROTF
<LionKon_IT> :-)
<LionTeddy_IL> sorry, useful
<LionKon_IT> from CIRCLE I receive about 30 message each day!
<LionTeddy_IL> How many you delete without reading?
<LionKon_IT> Teddy, if you use ICQ 2000, there is a feature to organize a personal ICQ page
<LionTeddy_IL> OK, Corrado, I will look for it.
<LionKon_IT> I read fast in spanish, Zip :-)
<LionZip> I gat almost that many from LOL - but the others are not bothered by that mail - only me
<LionKon_IT> It's in "Service", "My communication Center", Teddy
<LionKon_IT> However, you are right Zip, probably about 27 of the 30 messages are to delete in few seconds
<LionZip> it becomes important when you have a topic with many responses - and the issue gets HOT - and the mail is too much for those not interested in the debate
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<LionZip> before LOL made the change, we lost about 30 members in the first 2 weeks
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<LionKon_IT> right Zip... however you could try to help me to customize the egroup service
<LionTeddy_IL> I created in my Address book a EICL List. I tried it and the messages that I sent came with undisclosed.
<LionKon_IT> there are a lot of settings
<LionKon_IT> and always all in english!!!!!!! :-)
<LionZip> i do not know the program well enough to help there
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<Pentti> Hello ther
<LionKon_IT> just to enter the page and read the instructions :-)
<LionTeddy_IL> Hello Pentti, welcome.
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<LionKon_IT> Hi there Pentti, welcome to the EILC chat!
<LionTeddy_IL> Hello Maggi, how are you?
<LionZip> Hello Pentti - Welcome to the EILC Chat Room
<LionKon_IT> hi there Maggi, welcome to the EILC chat!
<Maggi> Hello all
<LionZip> Hello  Maggi- Welcome to the EILC Chat Room
<Pentti> I have some problems to read you but hope to get along
<LionKon_IT> any new about your cold regions, fellow?
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<LionZip> Pentti - are you from Finland?
<LionKon_IT> too hot here in italy :-)
<Pentti> Yes
<LionZip> any news about the Russian submarine?
<LionTeddy_IL> Here in the holy Land is very hot!!!
<LionKon_IT> are you using the webchat Pentti?
<Pentti> No hope they say
<LionZip> that is too bad - I am sad about those poor souls
<Pentti> I am using the chatroom
<LionKon_IT> too much time from the disaster
<LionTeddy_IL> Why didn't the Russians accept international help?
<LionZip> all those poor mothers and wives....
<LionKon_IT> always political problems!!!!
<LionKon_IT> 118 people sacryfied to the politics!
<Pentti> It is going very slowly also in that Jolo island
<LionZip> they might not have had a chance any way....
<LionTeddy_IL> Or maybe to military secrets???
<LionZip> it is just too sad
<LionKon_IT> it's often the same! :-(
<Pentti> I am first time chatting here. Did you have a theme
<LionZip> Corrado - on your topic - i will send a note to the Lions on the LOL mail list woith this Saturday schedule and maybe some will cone here to see what it is all about
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<LionKon_IT> however, it's possible, as Zip said, that there were any chance anyway
<LionUmb_> hi
<LionZip> and mybe I will also learn how to type!
<LionKon_IT> hi there Umberto, welcome to the EILC chatroom
<LionTeddy_IL> Hello, LionUmb
<LionUmb_> at least, i am arrived
<LionZip> Ciao umberto
<LionUmb_> hallo to all
<LionKon_IT> Pennti, the topic for today is: How can we encourage more Lions to join EILC and the Chat sessions?
<Pentti> I must learn this first myself
<LionUmb_> it's very hard
<LionZip> Did EILC get a meeting room at Forum for the annual meeting?
<LionTeddy_IL> Why is it very hard LionUmb?
<LionZip> everthin new is hard
<Pentti> May be it is better to e-mail to e-groups and chat afterwards
<LionZip> advance notice of meeting with topic is good
<LionUmb_> It's very hard to bring someone in the chat, because is not simple for many people
<LionKon_IT> actually we have the problem that we are in the summer vacations here in europe. But a second problem is that now I've received lot of membership applications from Italy and i wish more from all the Europe and all the world. Our fellow Matteo is working too well for us :-)
<LionZip> most of LOL is USA with some from Canada - the time zones will make that happen
<LionZip> and language might also be a problem
<LionKon_IT> Zip, on sept 4th there will be a plenary session of the Forum Staff and I'll speak with the Forum president about a scheduled EILC meeting during the Forum
<Maggi> Lions in Iceland dont meet during the summer (jun jul aug)
<LionUmb_> We must create a Lion-Esperanto language
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<LionKon_IT> If there will not be a possibility because the Forum program is already full, we could meet over the Forum Program but in Florence and in these days
<LionTeddy_IL> LionUmb, that is very complicated!!!
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<LionUmb_> we would need for Ice-land, indeed. We have 36°C, now
<LionTeddy_IL> I am looking forward to particpate in the EILC meetting during the Forum.
<LionKon_IT> I was speaking this morning with Julien about a good time for our meeting/party in Florence: maybe on oct 28 (Sat) from 13.00 to 16.00
<Maggi> 17 "c is hot enough here
<LionZip> maggi is bragging! Can we fine him?
<Pentti> from which country are you Maggi ?
<LionZip> it is probably already too late to request a meeting room and a notice in the printed schedule
<LionKon_IT> who will be our tail twister, ZIp?
<Maggi> No bragging unusually warm summer here in Iceland
<LionZip> no sweaters today, Maggi?
<LionTeddy_IL> LionZip, trust in KonRad, he is a magician...
<LionKon_IT> Maggi is from Iceland, Pentti, not so far from you :-)
<LionZip> teddy can be the TT - he is almost always here
<Pentti> Is whale meet still allowed to be eaten ?
<Maggi> No sweaters Zip
<LionKon_IT> good idea Zip. I wish to organize a Club Board from all the EILC countries
<Maggi> I would sure have some but no whaling for over 10 years
<LionTeddy_IL> Sorry, my heart is to soft...I couldn't fine anybody...
<LionKon_IT> Zip, where you pay the fines in LOL?
<LionZip> fines assessed in LOL are paid to the members home club at the next time they meet
<Pentti> I will now have a crayfish party so until next time
<LionZip> thanks for your visit pentti
<LionKon_IT> Friend, if you don't know, Pentti is a great cook
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<LionUmb_> now Leon Behaim is coming with us
<LionZip> wonderful!
<LionTeddy_IL> About our topic today, may I tell you that I have tried to invite turkish Lions and Lion Lance from Australia that is now in Korea for a year and Corrado knows him.
<LionKon_IT> Zip, maybe you can ask to Pentti if he want to send a recipe for the LOL cookbook
<LionZip> please ask him to do that - we need many more recipes
<LionKon_IT> ok, I'll do.
<LionZip> Grazie
<LionKon_IT> About the Topic: I think that the members of other countries should try to invite others from their lands
<LionKon_IT> We will have soon a new member from Cecoslovacchia and i hope another from Jordan
<LionTeddy_IL> I have tried to invite isreli Lions, too. Maybe some will join.
<LionZip> Can you do a search for "Lions Club" and send an invitation to all the new addresses you find?
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<LionUmb_> hallo JAn
<LionTeddy_IL> Hola Jan, bienvenido!!!
<LionKon_IT> why not.... I've the access to the LionNet dbase. But i think that should be more interesting if the new members are attracted by the idea to share International experiences
<kokelaar> hello my dear ciberfriends
<LionZip> you need to find Lions from areas 2 hours east and 2 hours west of you, Corrado - and invite them to come look at EILC
<LionKon_IT> Hi there Jan, welcome to the EILC chat room!
<LionZip> ola Jan
<LionKon_IT> Did you look at your resume Jan?
<kokelaar> no corrado, but i will next week
<Maggi> It is kinda funny we are eilc but we are from 3 hemisfairs is that not right?
<LionTeddy_IL> Corrado, talking about resume, I do not find mine. Where is it?
<LionKon_IT> It's published, Jan and now you are a regular EILC member :-)
<LionZip> and i am an irregular member!
<LionKon_IT> you have just to click on your name in the members page, Teddy
<LionTeddy_IL> Maggi, Israel is in Europe from Lions point of view.
<kokelaar> i feel honored
<LionTeddy_IL> Good, I will try it again.
<LionKon_IT> Maggi, may you send us your resume too for the EILC members page?
<kokelaar> still we are fron the states, europe and south america
<LionUmb_> on line is fem fro Turkey
<LionKon_IT> Semra Advici, Umberto :-)
<Maggi> We all live in the same world and that is Lions
<LionKon_IT> exactly Maggi :-)
<kokelaar> right you are
<LionZip> Sorry - but it is time to get ready for work - thank you all for allowing me to visit today
<LionKon_IT> Grazie a te Zip, always welcome as our favourite "irregular" member :-)
<LionZip> Arrividerci
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<kokelaar> see you next week zip as tomorrow i won,t be in the chat
<LionTeddy_IL> Bye, Bye Zip
<Maggi> I must admit beeing lasy Corrado it is in the computer but no picture yeat
<LionKon_IT> well, start with the text resume, then you can send the picture :-)
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<kokelaar> to get more members for eilc it could be useful gathering e mail directions of lions in europe and comunicate with them
<LionTeddy_IL> OK friends. I say good bye to you. I will leave to join the CIRCLE chat.
<LionKon_IT> ok, Teddy see you again online
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<LionKon_IT> Jan, as I said, I think that before the members should be interested and curious for the invitation of a friend.
<kokelaar> through lion net you will be able to comunicate with a lot of clubs to send a invitation
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<LionKon_IT> Or we will have lot of people in the mailing list but few participants in the EILC works
<LionKon_IT> But we can try this way too: I've the access to the LionNet database
<kokelaar> a lot of lions in europe do not even know about the existence of eilc
<LionKon_IT> that's clear, we are just born :-)
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<LionKon_IT> hi there Semra! Welcome to the EILC chat!
<kokelaar> my dear friends a short visit  and once again Umberto all recipes are great thanks a lot
<kokelaar> bye bye
<LionKon_IT> I'm glad to present you our fellow Lion Semra form Turkye friends
<LionUmb_> welcome Semra
<fem> hi :))
<fem> suprise for me
<LionKon_IT> Ciao Jan
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<LionKon_IT> see you again and let me know if your resume it's ok
<fem> ý send otorize Umberto
<LionKon_IT> always surprises with your Lions friends :-)
<fem> ý see 
<fem> :))
<LionUmb_> Ciao, ora vado al CIRCLE, bye I will chat now with CIRCLE
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<LionKon_IT> It's almost time to close the session friend.... Today the North Of Europe was well represented!
<LionKon_IT> Iceland and Finland here :-)
<LionKon_IT> Maggi, let me know your opinion how to increase the group in your country
<LionKon_IT> Semra, try to look at our webpage, and if interested, join the group, you will be the 3rd from Turkye :-)
<fem> now ým looking :)
<Maggi> I will try as soon as clubs start again in september
<LionKon_IT> the same problem here in Italy, Maggi. All in the summer vacations here, taking sun on the beaches!
<LionKon_IT> When you will be in italy with us?
<Maggi> ??????????
<LionKon_IT> why don't you try to organize a travel in italy Maggi? we will be glad to see you here with us
<Maggi> For a carpenter in Iceland the summer tine is vital you must stick to your work winter is more esy so maby
<LionKon_IT> maybe in october, Maggi, joining the EILC party :-)
<LionKon_IT> at least Semra will be invited too :-)
<fem> yes
<fem>  u promise
<LionKon_IT> anyone could try a recipe from his/her country
<Maggi> Maby       wintertime it snows Italian/Icelandic snow must look alike
<LionKon_IT> well, in october, there will be still enough sun here
<Maggi> We will see It is nice to see someone use the same alfabet fem ýþð
<LionKon_IT> :-)
<LionKon_IT> Let us know Maggi! We'll leave a special place for you!
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<LionKon_IT> Ok fellow, I've to go now. It's the time to serve the little Alessandro, the new baby just born
<Maggi> I will . I better quit now see you later bye
<LionKon_IT> Ciao a tutti. See you the next week
Session Close: Sat Aug 19 17:16:17 2000