Session Start: Sat Jun 17 16:04:20 2000
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<LionKon_IT> ciao Jan
<kokelaar> good morning corrado
<LionKon_IT> It seems that someone is on the beach and other started their travels for the hawaii :-)
<kokelaar> appears we are spanning the world from italy to chile quite a distance
<kokelaar> no beaches here and cold today but the sun is shining
<LionKon_IT> here a great sun today, I'm trying to teach Teddy how to use mirc
<kokelaar> i am using mirc for circle but eilc and lol direct from the web page
<LionKon_IT> I always prefer mirc.... the connection is faster
<LionKon_IT> do you have the mirc setups for EILC?
<kokelaar> that,s right but on the other hand i am making a regular visit to the pages to keep me up to date
<LionKon_IT> right :-)
<kokelaar> please send me the mirc details for eilc corrado, thanks
<LionKon_IT> server = ielf.fr.librenet.net
<LionKon_IT> port 6667
<LionKon_IT> channel #eilc
<LionKon_IT> it's an european server
<kokelaar> thanks and these details are also on the web page
<LionKon_IT> yes :-)
<kokelaar> you see it is not a bad idea to get to the chat through the web page 
<LionKon_IT> yes and you can see there the link for the different time zones too
<kokelaar> in one of the chats in lol they discussed a regular chat in the lci chat room what about eilc
<LionKon_IT> maybe I could add you in our members list as an european living in another country :-)
<LionKon_IT> did you look at the members resumes?
<kokelaar> thatī what i have been asking from the beginning but the reply was only for european inhibitants
<LionKon_IT> oh not so exclusive :-)
<kokelaar> where do i send the details corrado
<LionKon_IT> at least you already are in our mailing list :-)
<kokelaar> thats right and veru much appreciated
<LionKon_IT> in the members page you can see the resumes of some members (linked with their names) and you could find also in the web site the membership application form
<kokelaar> i have a look at the members resumes later today
<kokelaar> and will send the application form
<LionKon_IT> exactly, then I'll add you in the members page and you could send me your resume :-)
<kokelaar> i did do something with the video camara but in netmeeting i did not find any servers
<LionKon_IT> there are lot of servers to use.... did you have ICQ 2000?
<kokelaar> yes i have icq 2000 installed and using it daily
<LionKon_IT> and there is a web page where you can fin lot of NM servers (called ils)
<LionKon_IT> probably we could try a NM connection directly from ICQ
<kokelaar> will have another go at it during the week, because tonight we have the anual transmision ceremony and i am making the anual memory and balance plus the program for tonight
<LionKon_IT> great, we had last thursday
<LionKon_IT> however, the problem using NM is the same to use mirc: you have to know where your friend is located
<LionKon_IT> even you can try a connection using the IP of your friend
<LionKon_IT> (direct call)
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Session Start: Sat Jun 17 17:10:13 2000
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<LionKon_IT> here again :-)
<kokelaar1> yes the server knocked me out
<LionKon_IT> using mirc now?
<kokelaar1> this year is crucial for my club because we are proyecting to construct a oftalmolic centre with surgery theatre
<kokelaar1> no i keep on with the webpage
<LionKon_IT> really a great project!
<LionKon_IT> what do you think about an EILC service project?
<kokelaar1> the preproyect we are presenting tonight and send the proyect in july to lcif for financing with 75000 dollars and the rest we find here
<LionKon_IT> really important! You are great!
<kokelaar1> i am preparing a proyect for the euro latino americano comision based upon an idea we have that clubs in europe could finance some equipment and we will arrange operatives in other countries once or twice a year whre the medical health service is not all that good
<LionKon_IT> we could join our forces!
<kokelaar1> will keep you informed, because euroforum is in october when the proyect must be ready in order luis dominguez can use it for his presentation
<LionKon_IT> yes, I know! I told to Luis that we can host the project in the EILC web pages, what do you think?
<kokelaar1> good idea because euro latino will need a space to presents its proyects
<LionKon_IT> there is a special page in the EILC web site called "Europa Space" look at it please
<kokelaar1> will do so later
<kokelaar1> corrado will have to leave you because would like to join circle for a while to keep my spanish up to date
<LionKon_IT> i go there too
<kokelaar1> ciao and SYL
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Session Start: Sat Jun 17 18:03:49 2000
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<LionTeddy_IL> OK, here we did it, HURRAY!!!
<LionKon_IT> perfect!
<LionTeddy_IL> Corrado, you are GENIUS!!!
<LionKon_IT> your use of Internet is growing up!
<LionKon_IT> third step: add the LOL server too :-)
<LionTeddy_IL> OH, Yes, yes, yes,
<LionTeddy_IL> Good, how to do it?
<LionKon_IT> same road :-)
<LionKon_IT> set up then add a new channel
<LionTeddy_IL> but what words to add?
<LionKon_IT> wait, I give you the server name
<LionTeddy_IL> Good
<LionKon_IT> ok, Description = LOL
<LionKon_IT> server = irclions.kirenet.com
<LionKon_IT> port = 6667
<LionTeddy_IL> Take in consideration that I have only five minutes becasue I want ot see the opera...
<LionKon_IT> then the right channel is #lionsonline
<LionKon_IT> ok let us try, copy these informations and I'll go in the LOL room waiting you
<LionTeddy_IL> OK
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Session Start: Wed Jun 21 03:27:11 2000
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Session Start: Sat Jun 24 16:05:30 2000
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<LionKon_IT> Ciao Teddy
<LionTeddy_IL> Hi LionKon, I did it.
<LionKon_IT> great :-)
<LionKon_IT> as you can see it's always easier to join the chats using mirc
<LionTeddy_IL> Yes, it is easier. How are you? I understand you are in contact with Segio about the Diplomas.
<LionKon_IT> yes. Lat monday i was at their charter meeting
<LionTeddy_IL> Corrado, are you there?
<LionKon_IT> it was really interesting and funny
<LionTeddy_IL> What was interesting and funny?
<LionKon_IT> they organized a round with a boat before the dinner party
<LionKon_IT> the charter evening of the Livorno club
<LionTeddy_IL> You mean the Livorno Lions Club?
<LionKon_IT> and I spoke with Stefano about the messages exchanged with Sergio about the Diplomas
<LionTeddy_IL> OK now I understand. That is nice and exiting.
<LionTeddy_IL> Marcel and myself have a meeting tomorrow with the Travel Agent.
<LionKon_IT> now I'm reading a message sended from Sergio
<LionTeddy_IL> Good, did you understand everything?
<LionKon_IT> yes, all is perfectly clear
<LionTeddy_IL> Excellent.
<LionKon_IT> I think that we could solve the problem of the Hebrew Diploma simply leaving print it there
<LionTeddy_IL> Of course, just need to agree in the text and the format.
<LionKon_IT> we could work from here to there using Internet and we can arrange the Italian/English/spanish text entirety
<LionKon_IT> then Sergio Has only to write it in Hebrew too and it's all done
<LionKon_IT> We could exchange our banners images
<LionTeddy_IL> Very good. You will certainly manage and have an understanding with Sergio
<LionKon_IT> and decide all the little details that he asked me with his e-mail
<LionTeddy_IL> You can view my Club's Banner in our Internet Page.
<LionTeddy_IL> Sergio is requesting where he can find your Club's Banner?
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<LionKon_IT> yes
<Julien_F> hello
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<LionKon_IT> He could find a picture in our Web Site
<LionKon_IT> Ciao Julien
<LionTeddy_IL> Hi Julien_F, how are you?
<LionKon_IT> but i want to send him a better image
<LionTeddy_IL> Very good.
<LionKon_IT> because to print perfectly the banner a large definition is needed
<Julien_Fr> fine thanks !
<LionTeddy_IL> That will understand Sergio better than I.
<LionKon_IT> Julien, what happens in France? Devil is walking happily in the hot streets as here?
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<LionTeddy_IL> Yesterday we had the pre-selection of the participant in the Lions Musical Contest
<LionKon_IT> great!
<LionKon_IT> ciao again Julien
<LionTeddy_IL> Hi Julien again!!
<Julien_Fr> hi again ... just switch for IRC
<LionKon_IT> I have a question for julien: what I should do to change the chat topic?
<LionKon_IT> I've tryed but when I've changed it, immediately the server re write the first one
<Julien_Fr> 30s I check this ...
<LionKon_IT> See... I right click on the mirc window and try to change it
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<LionTeddy_IL> What is new in our Virtual Club/
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<Julien_Fr> easy :o)
<LionKon_IT> Well, 10 of us are at the International Convention and someone is working in the Internet Booth with LionNet, LOL and CIRCL
<LionKon_IT> CIRCLE
<Julien_Fr> he prefers me :o)
<LionKon_IT> i see :-)
<Julien_Fr> you type "/msg chanserv SET #eilc TOPIC Welcome !"
<Julien_Fr> only the op can do that of course
<LionTeddy_IL> They all must be having a wonderful time.
<LionKon_IT> curious, because as admin I should have the opportunity to change the topic
<LionTeddy_IL> I do not want to interrupt your issue...
<Julien_Fr> I didn't study the problem yet ...
<LionKon_IT> Yes, there are latife bastug and Bob Stanley and they have the new EILC pins
<LionKon_IT> never Julien!
<Julien_Fr> ?
<LionKon_IT> we are speaking about the EILC news
<Julien_Fr> ok
-> *chanserv* SET #eilc TOPIC Welcome in the Europa Internet Lions Club Chat room!
<LionKon_IT> tryed to use the "/msg" command, nothing is happened :-(
<Julien_Fr> try "/chanserv SET #eilc TOPIC Welcome !"
<LionTeddy_IL> Corrado, I am preparing a presentation in hebrew to our Lions Club inIsrael to explain about Twining. Do you think it would good also in english to present there in some ocasion?
<LionKon_IT> yes
<LionTeddy_IL> OK
<LionKon_IT> Teddy and Julien do you want to see some pictures about our last meeting?
<LionTeddy_IL> Yes
<LionTeddy_IL> How?
<LionKon_IT> i can send it from ICQ
<LionKon_IT> Julien, nothing happened with the other command
<LionTeddy_IL> Well, you'll have to teach me how to do it.
<Julien_Fr> ok for the pictures
<LionKon_IT> easy :-)
<LionKon_IT> leave the N/A mode Julien
<Julien_Fr> what does it tell you ?
<LionKon_IT> ok, Teddy, I've sended you from ICQ
<LionKon_IT> You have to accept the file
<LionKon_IT> perfect
<LionKon_IT> and the second sending is for julien
<LionKon_IT> I have to publish them in the web site tomorrow!
<LionKon_IT> what's the name of the meeting when the leaving and incoming presidents exchange their pins?
<Julien_Fr> sorry ... but what are these pictures about ?
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<LionKon_IT> they are about our last meeting when the 2 presidents exchanges their powers
<LionKon_IT> i don't know wich is the right name in english :-(
<LionKon_IT> Ciao Jan, how are?
<Julien_Fr> ok
<Julien_Fr> cia
<Julien_Fr> o
<kokelaar> good afternoon my dear friends, all well in chile and happy with the rain in olmue
<LionKon_IT> an hot sun here Jan, about 34°
<LionTeddy_IL> Hi kokelar, here we are,too.
<kokelaar> ola teddy second time
<LionKon_IT> I've just sended the pictures of our last Club meeting to Julien and Teddy, do you want to see them you too Jan?
<LionTeddy_IL> Corrado, very nice pictures. I don't see you?
<LionKon_IT> I'm the photographer :-)
<kokelaar> yes coorado send them to kokelaar@ecoweb.cl
<LionKon_IT> I can send you from ICQ
<kokelaar> ok
<LionTeddy_IL> kokelar, when in CIRCLE meeting?
<LionKon_IT> just sending now
<LionKon_IT> A "little" new for you: me and Teddy are working for a twinning between our clubs
<kokelaar> circle meeting starts at 1100 chile time and 1700 european time (i think)
<LionKon_IT> yes, Teddy it's right
<LionTeddy_IL> and for two more Clubs of Italy and Israel
<kokelaar> will that be a cibernetic twinning???
<LionKon_IT> about 15 minutes from now
<LionKon_IT> no, jan, we organized it from Internet and we will have the Ceremony in OCtober
<LionTeddy_IL> No a Israeli Delegation is travelling to Florence to be at the Forum and to particpate at the Twinings.
<kokelaar> cibernetic twinning could be with certificate transfer and signatures etc.
<kokelaar> make it a cibernetic twinning with a confirmation in Florence in October
<LionTeddy_IL> What for, Why do you think so, kikelar?
<kokelaar> just for the fun of it and being the first
<kokelaar> received the pictures corrado
<LionKon_IT> something about it Jan.... all the project runs using internet, and we will meet us before the Europa Forum with a great Ceremony with 2 italian clubs and 2 israeli clubs
<LionTeddy_IL> I am preparing a presentation on Twining and a form to do it without beeing present is that each Club gives power of attorney to the respective Ambassador or Consul and each Club makes a seprate Ceremony.
<LionKon_IT> wich is the english or spanish name of the meeting when the leaving and incoming presidents exchange their powers?
<LionTeddy_IL> In my presentation, kokelar, may I use your idea of Cibenetic Twining, too?
<LionTeddy_IL> In Spain I heard that the name is Cambio de Melenas.
<kokelaar> great thing but that does not mean that you canīt have a twinning at cibernetic level, even more you can at that ceremony promote the fact of being the first with interchange of diplomas through internet 
<LionTeddy_IL> kokelar, you can view the Diplomas of our Club's Twining with the IstanbulLevent Club in our WebSite
<LionTeddy_IL> http://www.angelfire.com/mn/teddyslionsclubpage
<kokelaar> please use it corrado, as it will be another step in promoting a lionism without borders
<LionTeddy_IL> Corrado, here in Israel we call it Change of Gavel Ceremony
<LionKon_IT> thanks Teddy :-)
<kokelaar> at that twinning ceremony will there be an interchange of flags of the countries?????
<LionKon_IT> jan, we could organize something to promote the use of internet too
<LionKon_IT> now the most important thing that we are organizing is a unique ceremony for the 2 twinning
<LionTeddy_IL> All the details of the Ceremony are to be yet discussed and decided upor.
<LionKon_IT> with the Ambassadors, the Rabbi Chief, the Civil Authorities of the Carrara and Livorno Cities, someone of other religions to promote the Tolerance between different people
<kokelaar> another idea could be a twinning between districts and have the governors participating
<LionTeddy_IL> I am trying to enter the CIRCLE chat and again I have problems
<LionKon_IT> and we will have the Governors and all the Lions Authorities and delegations of other Tuscan clubs
<LionKon_IT> there will be a lot of work to do, but I'm sure that we could organize something great :-)
<kokelaar> when i was governor i did organise a triple twinning between paraguay, uruguay and chile and signed by augustin soliva when international president
<kokelaar> we signed that twinning at the folac meeting in Rio de janeiro in 1997
<LionTeddy_IL> Well, that could be a great idea that Twining Diplomas should also be signed by InternationalPresident after the Ceremony in Florence. Maybe?
<kokelaar> if the Dr Behat comes to Florence have him sign that twinning between Israel and italy
<LionKon_IT> wow! We could try to have some important lions authorities because the day after the Europa Forum will start
<LionTeddy_IL> kokelar, you are a genious!!!
<LionTeddy_IL> My freiends. exxcuse me I have to leave. I'll pick in again in CIRCLE Chat if possibler and than we have a party.
<LionTeddy_IL> Bye, bye.
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<LionKon_IT> your idea is great Jan!
<kokelaar> it will need some elbow work but upon insisting you will have results and a cocktail between italy and isreal at the euroforum with the signing of the documents with IP dr Behar being the first one to sign all diplomas
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<LionKon_IT> another great work to do, Jan :-)
<kokelaar> here you are corrado put it all in practice and you will have something really exclusive
<kokelaar> something really exclusive
<LionKon_IT> yes :-)
<kokelaar> i am leaving and will join circle now, ciao corrado see you later
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<LionKon_IT> I'll join the Circle meeting too
<LionKon_IT> the chat is now closed
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